[SOLVED] If I program a web page with HTML, will it work with Safari or only Internet

#1 (**permalink**) 06-10-2007, 05:16 PM

Explorer? Forgive me if I sound stupid, but I'm trying to figure out what book to buy to learn web site design. I need to create websites that will work for both windows and mac. Thanks.

TeraTask · #2 (**permalink**) 06-12-2007, 12:41 AM

It's not as easy as that. The browser interprets HTML and then displays the results to the end user. There are a number of browsers for both Macs and Windows. Your safest bet is to study xHTML and use DOM access for adjustments for maximum compatibility.

An important thing to understand: Unless your page is only a graphic, it will look different from one browser to the next. It's very hard to make them exactly the same, but you can make them pretty darn close.

chrishirst · #3 (**permalink**) 06-12-2007, 04:06 AM

The browser that will give most problems will be Internet Explorer.

Learn to use HTML & CSS in a standards compliant way of coding then use IEs conditional comments and CSS expressions to tweak for IE.

Design & test your pages in a standards compliant browser such as FireFox rather than the usual method of testing in IE then finding it doesn't work correctly in any other browser.

HelloWorld · #4 (**permalink**) 06-12-2007, 08:32 AM

I can't say that IE is the one that bring the most problem in web designing becaue actually IE is rendering a web page better, but it just causes problems. The problem is that there are many manipulations of web page rendering in IE so that other browser that have stricter code reading such as Firefox will render it totally differently.

PS. Internet Explorer also reads margin differently than Firefox. They called the same term, with different meaning sometimes, I got annoyed because of those stuff too haha..

chrishirst · #5 (**permalink**) 06-12-2007, 04:21 PM

I truly hope you are not serious.

Bug list for IE and this is only the major ones!

Even once you have forced IE into what is jokingly called "standards mode" it still gets so many things wrong.

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The problem is that there are many manipulations of web page rendering in IE so that other browser that have stricter code reading such as Firefox will render it totally differently

Nope, there is only one correct way of rendering and that is to the W3C specifications.
IE misses this on so many things.

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PS. Internet Explorer also reads margin differently than Firefox. They called the same term, with different meaning sometimes, I got annoyed because of those stuff too haha

Nope there is only one meaning of margin in HTML, it's just that the IE designers had a different meaning to the rest of the world.

Blood08 · #6 (**permalink**) 06-12-2007, 04:27 PM

I have to say a couple things were fixed in the brand new IE

chrishirst · #7 (**permalink**) 06-12-2007, 04:30 PM

Yep, some were, many were not and a whole lot of new ones were introduced to us with IE7.

TeraTask · #8 (**permalink**) 06-12-2007, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by chrishirst

Nope, there is only one correct way of rendering and that is to the W3C specifications.

I think it worthwhile pointing out that the specification does offer some leeway in certain cases:

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At times, this specification recommends good practice for authors and user agents. These recommendations are not normative and conformance with this specification does not depend on their realization. These recommendations contain the expression "We recommend ...", "This specification recommends ...", or some similar wording.

from Conformance: requirements and recommendations

Lee · #9 (**permalink**) 06-12-2007, 04:37 PM

I find firefox the best browser, when i make a page i design it for firefox, the case normally is get it right for firefox and it will be right for IE + firefox is much quicker at doing things.

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